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endstream 3 wire stators are KO style with no neutral switch and 4 wire units K1 and up have the extra wire that connects to the green/red stripe wire for the neutral switch. ��F���lϟy"^�*�,[�>�>�*����8��-J��#1y����%�P�� �!��D@���+t�NRj=Yo���m@�xY�_ӱ?��"ٽ Wade b Expert Wade B EXPERT June 10, 2011 On the Kohler stator, if there is a green wire, this is for the stator brake and on many tractor set ups, it's not used. Due to the cost of an original part, (it cost at the time around 400$) if you can source an used one it is better. Your meter reading should be the same for any 2 wires. My current understanding: Assume I rewind a KT0-6700 stator so that the internally grounded end of the stator windings is now soldered to an insulated wire. I ran a wire from the key switch to to the fuel shut off solenoid to get that to work. ���q�|���gM*��#+�Pߘ^Ĺ�DQIA��6V�"��K�?f��QF���#hSd敖�� �Eꐄ[L�%-���J‰�Ns��,Ǽ�*�gE�QL%W��t�m������e���*Դ�ݮ,~X�lG�aX���+\v�V�a��5��iW%�r:nKو��9ǹ�O��-NV�ښ ��G>���J�ZkX��>���s�^T�׶W�� �A�՛�;� {��U�oy39�H��ܞ��밊B[�٪��Q@*���:֪qZ�\��]�SE:f�^�PHe3��Y��\ Apr 30, 2014 | … Do this touching one of your probes to your engine case and checking each stator terminal again. In the outrunner (or external-rotor) configuration, the radial-relationship between the coils and magnets is reversed; the stator coils form the center (core) of the motor, while the permanent magnets spin within an overhanging rotor which surrounds the core. Hi, I am trying to put a kohler cv15s-41567 ser #281900133 from a craftsman tractor 917.271013 into a honda mzbf tractor. Stator has 3 wires: Pink, Yellow, White. Wiring the stator. stream On 1986 and 87 200x models your yellow stator wire goes to the yellow/white wire. If you do you have a stator problem. ݢ��BI�l@ �@�4*�0I1&�@4� �G��57й:a�TYj��-���Ή�˧BWd�њ�A��}�g5s��6�p�|�ix3N=�$Ҍ�r0�4�mDЀ@M@ � � %` � @ CL��Ӽ���*$C@4��YT� �hsrJ�&�� �c ���I�\�57�v��z�y{K˓�����*GR�B�=ю�g��ѽcǏnk�=\��;ɔ��Ks,��L�4����CL `�*a�2� a��m�HH6�І�4 �I�4 ��� sB u,�,e�������]���=Ug;�j�N}^f١h͟_*v_��'J�)�ҥ���,�g�NOC_0=8�gt�Yђ��>�+�D�&. You can go all ghetto if you want and just snip the end off and wrap the wire … <> Clean the surface of the head with a piece of fine-grade steel wool and wipe the head clean with a lint-free cloth. <> HSATF 1st Officer. They do not have any solid yellow wires oin these models according to the wiring diagrams. Disconnect the 3 pin connector going to your stator. All 3 stator wires are the same size but where it connects to the regulator where the plug was the reg wires are thinker then the stator wires. Insert a brass 1/4 - 20tpi screw through each one, with a washer on each side and a nut on the back. Somewhere between the stator putting out power, the CDI, and the spark plug coil, there seems to be some issue. The voltage differential between these lead wires … Sounds like stator failure. Coil new copper wire, of the same gauge as the existing wire, around the cleaned stator heads in the same direction as the wire which was removed. Get shopping advice from experts, friends and the community! 1,615 156 2. Mark each individual wire of the three pairs of wires connected to each other A, B, & C 2-Separate A&A and check each for continuity with 1, 2, & 3. %PDF-1.4 Step 4. Rectifier: Rectifier Red/White [bottom wire in diagrams] goes to battery Positive + with a jumper to … c�j��Q�$�����qhl�Du���-�#}���m�g?�u�))�>HS~ӯ����4����#,����gI��&o��: ����;���/�����a���J͍�������h�Rɷ�p�K=��[|7P��Ի�ҕz�ݚn�2sh��d/%�oq��[�*d�� Ground Test. Newer replacement r/r units may have a 6th wire, called the “sense” wire. Set your ohm meter on the lowest scale you have. 3Pin connector but only 2 wires in the connector plus 1 separate wires . 50cc 4 stroke GY6 Engine 8 coil Magneto/Stator-Alternator. This is an DCStator using 8 copper wound coils. %äüöß I never tried it but it might just work,as long as the connectors match/fit inside each other.. … Cleve. If you disconnect the yellows from the regulator , and nothing is connected to the yellows comming from the stator . I show you how to wire up a generic 3 phase stator to a regulator on a 1989 Honda shadow … Three stator windings surround the rotor. stream ��� 1,615 156 2. The black wire should connect directly to the negative battery terminal instead of being grounded to the battery box or other chassis point. yellow wire voltage readings while attached to the regulator is/was a waste of time . SPARX ALTERNATORS ARE DESIGNED TO GIVE A HIGHER OUTPUT THAN STANDARD ITEMS ESPECIALLY AT THE LOWER REV RANGE. Simplified explanation is that star gives more voltage and delta gives more amps for a given rpm. That is, the same meter reading between wires 1 &2, 1&3,, 2&3. 1616 Rectifier has 3 or 4 wires: Yellow, Pink, Red/White, and some diagrams show a 4th Green wire. I'm having trouble with the wiring. Using AC on your meter, check across any two of the three wires coming out of the stator. The drawing shows how we'll wire the coils together. Put the negative lead on the engine’s ground and the positive lead on each wires of the stator’s … The 2 yellow wires should be separated from the rectifier and an ohmmeter reading across the wires should be .3 ohms more or less. 3 0 obj 1 will have continuity with 9 and 4, 2 will have continuity with 7&5, 3 will have continuity with 6 & 8.Arbitrarily name either of the ones with continuity to 1, 4 and the other one 9. There are only three wires in a three wire AC permanent magnet alternator system so do not know what you have, certainly not a stock H-D part with four stator wires. 4 0 obj {��^4��ƥ#�R��s"4���^�M{��Yֳ�0r�~�e�}�$r�j钜x�i�fK/����L�E;Y�i�d&Ē��"�j� N����P�N睨4�=*Oe��Lg�KQ�cĜ�}�T�S*�}��;�)f/f�[�̴$d�A�}�2(~�%�{m}RE�l�0�T>>k�'����n�k)ł7� �I����`�����+�B甎�W���k���E�I-luH��g\��,�ؤ�F4��5n�� Cleve. THIS SPARX BRAND 6V SINGLE PHASE 3 WIRE STATOR PROVIDES IMPROVED CHARGING OVER STOCK LUCAS UNITS AND AT A BETTER PRICE TO BOOT! If you suspect a short place one lead on the frame and one on 1 lead if it shows 0 it's shorted. The blue/white pickup wires is 0.5 VAC, and the red/black exciter wire puts out 51 VAC. the kohler has 3 wires coming from the stator and the honda had 1 wire, also the kill wire on the honda doesn't seem to put a ground on it when you turn the key off. Set your multimeter to Ohms. Specs: Diameter: 88.31. If it were mine, I'd make it a clean installation and tuck/tape a ground wire into the harness and down to the back with the rest of the stator wires and the hook the green wire coming out of the 5 wire stator to it. fits many50cc GY6 Chinese Scooters. 2 0 obj CAN ALSO BE USED IN 12V SYSTEMS IF WIRED IN CORRECTLY. That will most likely be a 200 ohm scale. A high current draw at the battery post will increase current draw on the alternator leads and overheat the stator wires. 4) see n.3) 5) The only thing that could be wrong is that no voltage is generated at the three wires at the output, so no battery charging. This stator coil config is the "star" or WYE style as evidenced by the 3 joined wires and the 3 separate stator wires. The 'start' is the lead that comes from the inside of a coil, and the 'end' is the from the outside of a coil. endobj If it was running, the problem was probably a loose ground terminal on the battery as the 3 yellow wires normally supply AC voltage to the rec/reg and the rec/reg then supplies DC voltage to the battery. We define each coil (and each phase) to have a 'start' and an 'end'. -���0� E���jD���Q#b`M�ƪ�wm�>��>܏�� �BDb��0[y�*���]���UK����{i��_��ջ��S�;]B�q���j�i$0���he֎%uڭ�!��k:;��먜Tf�Z�9�b���5A�J�#.I��h�,���?��)1��Chh��c�d���9��mU��Y�1eh~G��(Z�#��R��H���f�����L.� T hickness: 29.66mm || Bolt Hole spacing: 42.55mm. Post Dec 18, 2010 #4 2010-12-18T08:15. Remember to check your manual for your manufacturers testing of your stator. Drill 3 holes 1/4" in diameter about 1/2" away from the edge of the stator - one near each of the leads that's coming out. My main problem is the stator wiring , converting from 3 wires to 1. Looking at the KT0-8300 stator (90-02) compared to the KT0-6700 stator (86-89), I'm a bit confused by how this wiring is done in conjunction with the AC system. If they are different, your stator is defective. Each phase is numbered and consists of 3 coils in series. These two (or three) lead wires that exit the stator windings have to carry a current upwards of 30 amps. The motor stator windings are typically only connected as a 'Y' (star) if you have a neutral connection (4 wires). ;|SFS||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||�� ��" �� �� �� ��vh� ��ƍRڤ�NYI���!��1���L��x{f���� �Q4$�&��:����g���W(`��R� h��� � � ��I�i� �$��5� (!�j�M$b�hW44TА� �b b �b�c����:�ɩX�4 �Bbr��̍0�h%��}NT�k0��J ,LՄ����@�I%�` �` �i� �0@C q;��h � �(I� ���D�!� ��@h`0��\^�E#6�(nBE$ $7 ZY�")S�2j��O:�n� hCe�OVq�J� �2 ��7 �V C��4� )0� You should get no heat from the wires . Since we want more volts at a lower rpm it stands to reason we will configure our stator windings to star config. 3 yellow wires connect to the stator. http://www.slavensracing.comJeff Slavens explains how-to fix a ride ending issue. � aNH�3���*S���� I�m�0�n̯#0P�.b~����4 ��g��4q)��zj�������)-}O����zYҳ��a%A4���O�&d�� h��%�*��O9n`��Xa_�C�5�M�֍K���s��g�>ЗYÏ�{႐�e�Cq��GS)�����n4��֯}i�ֺ������Ӡ���^3[���䋎�[2S�������W�=���f�9�nL ���� JFIF �� C 2!=,.$2I@LKG@FEPZsbPUmVEFd�emw{���N`���}�s~�|�� C;!! If you charged the battery and it worked for a while, that adds to the stator suspicion. Connect your meter leads between any 2 of the 3 leads. Unwind the damaged wire from the stator head with your fingers. Item 4175. Should be around 80 volts at 5000 rpm. You should have no reading on your meter. This helps cut resistance in the charging system. The problem develops with the wires that exit the stator, that is, the ones that come out of the engine casing. The reading of each combination should be the same (test leads 1-2, 2-3, and 3-1). x��Yˎ�6��+�`��|H�g\���dQt�6�N�d���}�!J�&@1��CR����ǜl���3����h��Hϯt�u�lG?_��NC���� h��w4As8:�'W��������3!4�&��$�B?x���`���������M����_��N�l`:��q����8L4�t�g3LG�U����KY}�|��'�~����0�vw������v:FYiWY��e%L���tx~9|h|�H^��3�,�g��'�Ȑ�Y�� �d�h|�"9D��s�:�E"w�g:��aO�3�v��� N��1�61��z��A�Y2o�arL�e'���Z�O��C� STATOR REPLACES OEM LUCAS PN# 47204. Cut the leads just long enough so … from yellow to ground reved up should be about 28vac , yellow to yellow reved up about 40-60vac . In this case you should be able to ignore the neutral and use the 3 phase connections. Also check your 3 wires for a short to ground. 3 wire stator will only have the 1 coil where as the 5 wire will have 2 or more coils. Green from your 185 stator ALWAYS goes to green on a 200x harness whether it is light or dark. endobj Probes to your engine case and checking each stator terminal again and overheat the stator,! 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